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  • Thanks much Tom, I'm actually researching an addition to the Sorting Shed that if it pans out will be really cool.

    Hey Al, nice to hear from you! Appreciate your take here and glad there is some support for the natural wood timber posts. I really like the combination of weathered lumber and real wood log posts.
  • Outstanding work Ken. I love the way this is coming together! Hopefully my OScale version of this kit will arrive soon.
  • Thanks much and look forward to seeing some of those O Scale builds showing up! Did some roof work today and can't wait to get at those 3D detail parts.
  • Love the small shed, up to your usual standards!
  • Appreciate ya Boss! Can't wait to detail it with all those stellar 3D parts...sick!...see I'm hip...oops saying "hip" means you're not.
  • Been busy detailing the Staging Shed with an example of planning ahead in your modeling.

    The main piece of equipment that is located in the Staging Shed is the Eagle Model F Tractor Engine. This piece powers the saw and is a focal point of the operation. Brett designed an opening in the roof to allow the exhaust to be vented passively through the roof. I decided to take things a bit further and came up with a small exhaust hood that would be positioned over the exhaust stack of the engine to funnel the exhaust gases through the roof via a stove pipe This is similar to how a blacksmith forge would be vented. This is obviously overkill for a small operation but accomplishes two objectives for me; firstly, it adds an interesting detail for the inside of the open air Staging Shed. Having no walls and just four posts and a roof, any added details really trick up the structure! lol. Secondly it adds a stove pipe stack up through the roof giving an added level of visual interest to the roof, which is always a good thing. Remember, the roof(s) is the first thing a viewer will focus on. The stack will draw attention to take a look inside to find out what the stack is there for.

    The planning ahead part is constructing the roof to allow an opening for the stack and building in legit bracing on the roof construction for the stove pipe. Everything had to be lined up so the Eagle engine exhaust stack was directly under the exhaust hood, and the exhaust hood stove pipe roof access and support farming was in line...lots of fiddling around to get this right.

    Before I could position the Eagle engine I wanted to construct the timber support system for the engine. This would determine where the exhaust would be lined up. The kit manual has the engine support system as a fixed structure. I wanted to have a movable support in the form of a "sled" design that could be hooked to a truck or tractor and be drug to a new location and positioned.

    Inspiration can come from the smallest of sources. In looking through the extensive supply of support 3D detail parts Brett supplies with the kit, I just loved the `beautifully detailed chain shackles (see photo below).

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    This awesome detail got me thinking how cool it would be to have a sled design for the Eagle engine with this detail as part of the towing mechanism...that started the whole thing!

    I started working on the "sled" by following the manual for the location of the support timbers and simply having them fastened to runners rather than sit individually on the ground. The front of the skid runners were tapered, difficult to see in the pictures, to keep the runners from digging into the ground. This was followed by designing the hitch mechanism utilizing the chain shackle. I attached "heavy gauge sheet steel" to the end of a scale 2x6 to support the hole for the bolt that attaches the chain shackle. I then added "steel" corner braces for the upright timbers attached with NBWs. Weathered everything and done.

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    Completed Eagle engine "sled", note the awesome SWSMs chain shackle that was the basis for the project.

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    Beautifully designed and printed Eagle Manufacturing Model F Tractor engine positioned temporarily on the "sled"

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    Simply can't get enough of this beauty!!

    This post is getting too long so I'll post the remainder of the images with comments later...Ken
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    Better close-up of the "sled"
  • WOW! That's an awesome detail. Very creative.
  • Appreciate that Tom. Not a huge difference from the manual mounting set-up save for the few little extras and the skids.
  • edited October 8
    Welcome back to Dr. Grunge's Modeling Clinic - Fine Scale Modeling by: Ken Karns...sounds like a good title for a web-site, facebook page, and or YouTube channel...hmm...

    So picking up where I left off working on the Staging Shed, I spotted the Eagle engine where it would be located in the shed so I could position the exhaust hood directly over the engine stack.

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    (SWSM 3D printed boiler top positioned over the Engine exhaust)

    Once the position was confirmed I used a SierraWest Scale Models 3D print of a steam boiler and cut the top off. I painted and weathered the hood first with a base coat of Tamiya AS-22 Dark Earth spray paint. This was followed by several applications of pigments in rust, brown, black, etc. layered and then spritzed with dull coat as a fixative. The support brackets were cut from paper sprayed with the Tamiya spray paint and added the NBWs.

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    (The back edge of the hood was glued to the horizontal rafter, allowed to dry, then I added the support braces)

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    (Note the various colors achieved by the all important layering of the pigments. I'll darken the tip of the stack that is above the roof after it is installed on the model)

    Once I had the hood stationed in the proper location I had to align the cut out in the roof to align with the stack. Once this location was confirmed, I built the framing. The cut out was lined with "sheet steel" with the spray painted paper and weathered with pigments.

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    (The roof panel staged to check alignment with the cut out and exhaust stack. This should give the roof an added piece of visual interest)

    Once this work was completed I could finish the roof panels of both the Main Sawmill and Staging Shed. Note the following roof panel images are without the battens and other detailing which will be done with the roof panels fixed to the structures.

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    (Roof panels for the Main Sawmill. Note the subtile variation in color tone between boards. I used several different tones of pigments, fixed with alcohol, over the boards prior to installation)

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    (Ditto for the Staging Shed panels)

    The structure work is now done. The next installment will be the detailing of all the 3D printed parts!...Dr. Grunge out.
  • Excellent work Dr, I think I have found the prescription I was looking for! Love the engine skid idea, I was also debating going this route but on a metal sled, but rethinking that a bit. Hadn't thought about an exhaust hood, but liking the idea, it looks great!
  • Be careful not to overdose!...it's easy to do with SierraWest kits! Appreciate the
    feed-back and look forward to what you come up with.
  • Outstanding, what a great addition!
  • Appreciate that Brett! Your kits are the ultimate in modeling inspiration. I start building and my mind just gets flooded with ideas. Your kits bring out the best in the modeler which I have said many times before. Right now I'm sitting in front of my computer with the Eagle Engine, in brown primer, researching the various colors and weathering for this exquisite model, and I don't mean model as in Model F, I mean treating it as a model in itself! What a beauty...

  • That's GREAT work! Love the variation in the wood.
  • Thanks much Tom, appreciate ya.
  • Finished up the Eagle Model F Tractor Engine save for the belts. This project I used artist oils almost exclusively. I did use acrylics on the gas tank, top of the engine and drive wheel and Basically anything green. Other than that, all oils and pigments.

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  • Forgot to get the lettering on the front...how cool is this detail!

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  • You turned that into a masterpiece. How cool.
  • edited October 8
    A lot went into the research and design on the back end so figured I'd give it the same attention on the front end! Thanks Jim!
  • Just love your modelling skills. Looks fantastic can't wait to get my kit believe it is about to be sent on its way.
  • Nice hearing from you Kevin! Appreciate your take on the Eagle. It is such an incredible print. Look forward to seeing what you do with your kit.
  • Just fantastic all around Ken. Love the look you can get with oils. Greasy and grungy—your specialty!
  • Absolutely fantastic work!! Your coloring is just excellent on wood or resin!!

    Jerry
  • Thanks much Travis. The oils work well in certain situations like this.

    Well appreciate ya Jerry! Such a nice 3D print spent some time on this piece that's for sure.
  • Ken,
    It's about time I chime in here with the rest of the folks. Your work
    on anything you do is fabulous. I've a lot of respect for those modelers who show it all.
    I like the fact that you put your ideas into reality. And it shows. Thanks for sharing.

    Rich
  • Hey Rich, really nice hearing from you. I thank you for your kind words here, made my day for sure! You bring up a good point regarding build posts. Rather than just post images of finished projects, I like to post not only how I did something but also the why.
    Thanks again for your thoughts Rich, appreciate it!
  • Doing a major catching up. When Brett changed his main page, I thought the Forum had been taken down, (didn't see the menu).
    Ken, your posts (tutorials) are both illuminating and inspiring. My mind is overloaded with all the information you include in your posts. I truly appreciate the time you spend with photos and posts. That is a huge amount of extra time you take for the benefit of all of us.
    I can only echo everyone's comments above of the level you model to showing your level of experience, dedication and keen eye that brings these models to an even higher level.

    Rick
  • Rick!...long time my friend, nice hearing from you. I surely appreciate the support and your camaraderie over the years. Satisfying to know that my posts are being well received, are helpful and at least entertaining. Thank you so much for your kind thoughts here, it means a great deal. Keep in touch.
  • your posts are well received, helpful, and very entertaining. trust me.....
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