eric-it's milque toast. if yer gonna bash me, at least do it right. karl-i am in 100% agreement george-you're absolutely right. feels like a great weight has been lifted off my shoulders.
i have a contractor here that's busy hanging drywall. i expect I'll be able to get back to the workbench in a couple of weeks, once the room has been repainted.
A shelf/ wall layout is a great idea. Some of the finest most convincing modeling I have seen is by a modeler (retired art teacher) who hails from Indiana, Tom Johnson. He works and re-woks a scene until he he gets it just right. The way he blends his scenery on a one foot deep shelf into a wall mural is awesome. Tons to be learned by finding and following his concepts.
One of Toms interesting ideas is to use vehicles but no figures in his scenes. His idea is how many times driving through a small town do you see people out and about. I guess that works for him but I am not sure it works for our type of modeling where we are focused on the functioning structure in addition to the setting or even as part of the setting.
Yes, I couldn't agree more. Definitely two great modelers. They understand both the big picture as well as the small details that make model railroading so interesting.
Did you ever have a chance to visit the Batavia Club layout in the upstairs gym in downtown Batavia before the club lost it's lease? That was a layout that changed the focus of model railroading from just running trains in circles on plywood central to operating like a real railroad in a sceniced environment often times on a single track mainline. I hardly ever missed on of their open houses.
opened another wall and found moldy drywall. u.s. waterproofing is coming on 11/5, so all basement restoration is on hold until after that. can't wait to see what this is going to cost...... somebody shoot me.
On the positive side Kevin, its good that you found it now before any other work was done that could of hidden it and caused more problems later. Spending more time/money to do it right the first time is always quicker/cheaper than doing it twice... Good luck on the progress.
an update: the foundation repair is happening on 12/7, 12/8 the dry waller covers the opening where u.s. waterproofing will be working, 12/9 the painter comes and finishes painting (it's all done except where the wall needs to be patched up), 12/10 the new carpet gets installed, and then i can start putting the room back together. we decided to get new furniture upstairs and move this furniture downstairs, and there's a new 55" flat screen on the way. lo and behold, i have a 2' x 8' space for a display layout. the trains will work, but it will be shadowboxed display layout with On30 locos and rolling stock, O scale structures toward the front, and i will hopefully figure out forced perspective, and have a few h.o. structures toward the rear on a rise to create depth. i'm back in the game!! (in a few more weeks)
Shelf layouts are great. They give you an opportunity to bring your model railroad artistry up close, front and center for everyone to enjoy. The master of shelf layouts and blending scenery into backdrops for my money is Tom Johnson. Some of Tom's scenes (below) are just 6" deep.
For more photos and ideas Google: tom johnson's model railroad blog
Here are a few links to his artistry to get you started:
Tom Johnson's Logansport and Indiana Northern, a part of ... hu.pinterest.com/pin/358247345344346504 Subtle and fantastic level of realism.
Logansport and Indiana Northern. | Model Railroad Hobbyist ... model-railroad-hobbyist.com/node/8934?page=2 Tom had an article on roads into backdrops in the October, 2010 Model Railroader. However, I think there's potential for it to be expanded upon for use in MRH as well. The MRH format may allow for more detail, photos and diagrams than MR was willing to present
Tom Johnson's Logansport & Indiana Northern | Model ... www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKrbhoNFKF0 Miracle model railroad track conductivity solution | Model railroad tips | Model Railroad Hobbyist - Duration: 2:13. Model Railroad Hobbyist magazine 76,107 views 2:13
More Backdrop Artistry: Tom Johnson's Logansport ... - Blogger cprailmmsub.blogspot.com/.../more-backdrop-artistry-tom-johnsons.html Another master when it comes to backdrops is Tom Johnson. Like Steven Flanigan’s Louisville & Wadley Southern, Tom’s Logansport & Indiana Northern has some of the best backdrops I’ve ever seen. Particularly notable is the convincing way the roads on Tom’s layout meld so perfectly into foreground scenes.
thanks. i was a big fan of jim six and his layout, which i believe is a "sister layout" to tom johnsons. those indiana guys are masters! his method of matching his road to the backdrop road is astonishing.
Yes they are. What innovators they were along with the others who formed the Batavia, IL modelers group. I couldn't get enough of that layout and the concepts they introduced for building narrow shelves to operate on in a gigantic walk around layout. Wish there were many more photos of that layout in existence.
a week from today the foundation crack gets fixed, the next day the drywaller/painter comes to button up the wall were the crack was fixed, the following monday the new carpet comes......and in anxious anticipation of finally being able to unpack and clean up the work bench cuz it's covered in drywall dust (nice additional weathering....) i realized that the scenery is the next step on o'neill's and i was out of alcohol (not this kind...i'm never out of that):
i stopped at CVS to pick up isopropyl and they had something i've never seen before, and it seemed to be perfect for scenery work, so i picked up two pints of 91% and one of these:
hopefully in a couple of weeks i'll find out how well it works.
the room is back together. everything is done except clearing off the work bench, which had become a storage facility during the rehab of the room. hoping to get back to the bench in a few days.
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Karl.A
karl-i am in 100% agreement
george-you're absolutely right. feels like a great weight has been lifted off my shoulders.
Karl.A
Kevin,
A shelf/ wall layout is a great idea. Some of the finest most convincing modeling I have seen is by a modeler (retired art teacher) who hails from Indiana, Tom Johnson. He works and re-woks a scene until he he gets it just right. The way he blends his scenery on a one foot deep shelf into a wall mural is awesome. Tons to be learned by finding and following his concepts.
One of Toms interesting ideas is to use vehicles but no figures in his scenes. His idea is how many times driving through a small town do you see people out and about. I guess that works for him but I am not sure it works for our type of modeling where we are focused on the functioning structure in addition to the setting or even as part of the setting.
Later, Dave S. Tucson, AZ
Yes, I couldn't agree more. Definitely two great modelers. They understand both the big picture as well as the small details that make model railroading so interesting.
Did you ever have a chance to visit the Batavia Club layout in the upstairs gym in downtown Batavia before the club lost it's lease? That was a layout that changed the focus of model railroading from just running trains in circles on plywood central to operating like a real railroad in a sceniced environment often times on a single track mainline. I hardly ever missed on of their open houses.
Later, Dave
somebody shoot me.
George
Spending more time/money to do it right the first time is always quicker/cheaper than doing it twice...
Good luck on the progress.
Karl.A
Jerry
the foundation repair is happening on 12/7, 12/8 the dry waller covers the opening where u.s. waterproofing will be working, 12/9 the painter comes and finishes painting (it's all done except where the wall needs to be patched up), 12/10 the new carpet gets installed, and then i can start putting the room back together. we decided to get new furniture upstairs and move this furniture downstairs, and there's a new 55" flat screen on the way. lo and behold, i have a 2' x 8' space for a display layout. the trains will work, but it will be shadowboxed display layout with On30 locos and rolling stock, O scale structures toward the front, and i will hopefully figure out forced perspective, and have a few h.o. structures toward the rear on a rise to create depth.
i'm back in the game!! (in a few more weeks)
Terry
Shelf layouts are great. They give you an opportunity to bring your model railroad artistry up close, front and center for everyone to enjoy.
The master of shelf layouts and blending scenery into backdrops for my money is Tom Johnson. Some of Tom's scenes (below) are just 6" deep.
<img src="http://www.craftsmankituniversity.com/vanforum/uploads/imageupload/837/AA4MPJMNV9SO.JPG"
For more photos and ideas Google: tom johnson's model railroad blog
Here are a few links to his artistry to get you started:
Tom Johnson's Logansport and Indiana Northern, a part of ...
hu.pinterest.com/pin/358247345344346504
Subtle and fantastic level of realism.
Logansport and Indiana Northern. | Model Railroad Hobbyist ...
model-railroad-hobbyist.com/node/8934?page=2
Tom had an article on roads into backdrops in the October, 2010 Model Railroader. However, I think there's potential for it to be expanded upon for use in MRH as well. The MRH format may allow for more detail, photos and diagrams than MR was willing to present
Tom Johnson's Logansport & Indiana Northern | Model ...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKrbhoNFKF0
Miracle model railroad track conductivity solution | Model railroad tips | Model Railroad Hobbyist - Duration: 2:13. Model Railroad Hobbyist magazine 76,107 views 2:13
More Backdrop Artistry: Tom Johnson's Logansport ... - Blogger
cprailmmsub.blogspot.com/.../more-backdrop-artistry-tom-johnsons.html
Another master when it comes to backdrops is Tom Johnson. Like Steven Flanigan’s Louisville & Wadley Southern, Tom’s Logansport & Indiana Northern has some of the best backdrops I’ve ever seen. Particularly notable is the convincing way the roads on Tom’s layout meld so perfectly into foreground scenes.
Hope this helps you get started.
Later, Dave S. Tucson, AZ
Later, Dave S.
his method of matching his road to the backdrop road is astonishing.
Later, Dave S. Tucson, AZ
i stopped at CVS to pick up isopropyl and they had something i've never seen before, and it seemed to be perfect for scenery work, so i picked up two pints of 91% and one of these:
hopefully in a couple of weeks i'll find out how well it works.
Terry