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  • I agree with you Mitch, and I was thinking the same as I was looking earlier, which is why I kinda backed off.

    You have some boards running perpendicular to the walls, and some boards running parallel.
    Indeed too much over thinking of these things can lead to a headache...

    As you have also noticed this difference I'll expand further into the realms of my madness.....

    The boards perpendicular to the wall the moisture would wick outwards as it does up the wall, the moisture/dirt/stains would seep outwards, but not too far, I think you have the distance right but maybe just a little darker.

    As for the boards parallel to the wall, the board closest to the wall, again would be darker , but, the next board wouldn't get nearly so much water damage/effect due to the fact that the water/moisture would pass through the gap between the boards before getting to the next one.

    So much to think about, so much to drive you crazy, sometimes impressionism is easier than realism, we all draw that line somewhere.

    Karl.A
  • Oh, and as I said earlier, what you have now looks good, so, don't push it too far, unless YOU want to.

    Karl.A
  • Thanks for your comments Karl and Ed.

    On to the slab bin. The bottom of the chute is a scale 23 feet from the ground. Seems pretty high. Since that is the way it is designed and everyone else built it that high I will build it that way to.
  • A wise choice Mitch,
    I'm sure there were reasons, I haven't built this amazing kit yet so I cant comment on what they may be, but, as with everything in a SWSM kit, it sure as hell wasn't random.

    Looking forward to seeing your next update.

    Karl.A
  • Nice progress, Mitch. Good job on the conveyor. That's an intricate little feature and you built it with lots of character. In a couple of the pics, the wood looks really "new" to my eye. Almost like fresh cut lumber. It could be the angle or the lighting. If not, a little chalk powder dusted on here and there will help weather and add some age to it.
    I'd use some raw umber (408.5, .7, and .9) and maybe even a little raw sienna (234.3 is a nice earthy color). If you want to be daring, some light grays will give it a sun-bleached type aging.
  • Thanks for the help Bill. Always appreciated.

    I weathered the conveyer a little more as suggested. I used my alcohol and ink to do this. The same stain I used on the wood originally. Just more of it. Here is the result.
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    Now let us compare it to the newly built slab bin. The slab bin looks like it was just built by comparison. Going to need some serious weathering on that structure now.


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    When more progress is made I will post.
  • edited July 2017
    The construction is perfect, the joints are all tight and it looks amazing structurally, I cant wait to see what you do with it.

    I'm curious as to why the bin looks so new, I haven't built the kit yet, or even read the manual, so, I don't know how all this fits in or the processes involved. I'm eager to see the next pictures.

    Karl.A
  • Thanks Ed.

    Karl, the camera is not capturing the color I am seeing. The wood on both structures is more brown and grey while the camera makes the structures more yellow. The slab bin needs to be weathered but it is not as nearly new looking as the picture suggests.
  • edited July 2017
    That answers my question Mitch, thanks for your reply, the camera can certainly be our friend sometimes, but other times it doesn't quite tell the truth.

    I look forward to the next update.

    Karl.A
  • Just curious; given all the comments over the years I've come to wonder if the difference between what's seen with the naked eye vs. the posted pictures is due to the camera, lighting, camera settings, the translation to a web file, my monitor settings or all of the above. How do the website versions compare to what you see on your monitor when using your photo-processing/viewing app?
  • I took some pictures with a different background.
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    The change in background helped the camera capture a truer color to my eye. Please dismiss the previous pictures because their color is too.....
    The slab bin still needs to be weathered but at least it does not look brand new now.

  • Looking at the pictures on my computer they look fine. On my cellphone only the first picture looks close but it is not the same. All the other pictures have a red cast. I give up!
  • If it looks good to your eyes in person and you are happy with it, then that's all that matters.
    Sometimes conveying that is impossible, too many variables. The modelling is great and that's what matters most.

    Karl.A
  • Great work Mitch. Love the weathering on the conveyer and that's some serious work you have done so far. Has to be the greatest HO Scale kit ever produced. You will enter a class and fraternity of modelers, with this one under your belt, that few have obtained...I'll be there...some day!...well done (so far lol)
  • This should be the last pictures I post of the slab bin now that it is weathered. I used a white background to try to get the wood colors darker.
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  • Very nice Mitch. Weathering looks great as does the overall construction.
  • This is the log brow. Its construction is a little different in that you have to cut into the wood to make the pieces fit together. I used a sanding drum on a dremel tool to make the shapes in the wood to fit. Made the depth of each one by eye and seem to have gotten away with it.




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  • Nice looking construction and wood color. Will look great after final weathering and situated next to the log pond. Every element you complete here reminds me of what an extensive and brilliant kit the Twin Mills is.
  • I love your log brow. It took a beating and you have captured that abuse extremely well Mitch! Be sure to color all the exposed ends.
  • It definitely looks 'rough and ready' Mitch, just as it should... great construction
    and as Ken and Brett have mentioned, once all those rough cut ends are darkened down its going to look even more fantastic.

    I sometimes think its a shame that all of these smaller things get lost in the 'vastness' of the 'Twin Mills', but then remember that it is because of this quality throughout everything that that is what makes it so spectacular.

    Keep up the great work and the pictures.

    Karl.A



  • Brett and Ken I struggled with with the coloring of the ends of the wood. I had them colored but they were all practically black because the ends take the stain that way as anyone who does this knows. I did not like the look so I sanded off the stain. I don't really like the square wood that way but I like the logs that way. I feel a little stuck. I suppose I need to find a color I can live with for the square ends.
  • Thanks Karl. You posted while I was responding to Brett and Ken's comments. Do you think the log ends are okay but not the square wood or should all the ends get stained?
  • Going back and thinking about it, to be honest, I'm pondering a couple of things....
  • edited August 2017
    I typed a long reply, but, well, ultimately that bottom left round log end stands out and needs a 'touch'.
    Overall I think the log ends are OK, maybe one or two of the very light spots could be dulled a little if I was being fussy, but that may be the lighting.
    Maybe just a slight touch (or two) with a very weak a/I mix on a detail brush on some of the square ends to 'kill' the new wood look but not darken them. As you say, its tough to determine, but I think that will do it.
  • I thank everyone for their positive comments and suggestions. I will attempt to improve the log brow and post the results.
  • I went back and diluted my stain by about a power of ten. Very thin. Then I went back and applied coats to it until I felt it looked better.

    The first picture is how the wood looked with full strength stain in some places. The squares and the log on the right are practically black even though the camera seems to lighten them.
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    Now I will present what the log brow looks like now.

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    I think that wraps up the log brow although I am always interested in suggestions. I will turn to the next page in the instructions and see what adventure is next.
  • I like it.

    Karl.A
  • I have been away from the work bench for a while and will be getting back to the sawmill soon. I have to start building the base with the log pond. I have been putting this off. My question is....is there a rule of thumb limit to how big the pond can be in relation to the resin poured for the pond? I would like to make the pond bigger, not deeper, than the instructions show. Is that a problem in any way?
  • I can't see a limit, assuming it is Envirotex Lite. I wanted my pond as large as possible that would fit on a 3ft. x 4ft. base. I taped two pieces of 1/2" Gatorboard together and laminated 1 inch pink foam on top for the land forms. As I recall the pond was about 30% larger than the one in Brett's instructions.

    I made seven 1/8" pours of Envirotex. The gory details are on an old and very long thread on RRLine done by our friend Elliott and myself (Duelling Mills). My rather large diorama was dragged across the country a couple of times (and to Canada) and isn't the worse for ware, and no warping.
  • Mitch. I made mine quite a bit larger than Brett's the bigger the better. ...............Carl
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