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  • John, I looking forward to your progress. Phil
  • edited November 2014
    Thanks Phil. Loving your progress! Believe it or not I spent a few hours today building the platform for the storage tank above the warehouse roof. More tomorrow . . . .

    My household projects are finally at an end after two months, my hobby room tidied and I'm motivated to get back to modeling . . . In the interim I've even added four more kits to my inventory - there was a space on the shelf that looked lonely. Thank goodness I plan to do this until I am at least 250 . . . . some people talk about getting old - fortunately that will never happen to me!

    Respectfully,
    John
  • Back to modeling . . . the warehouse still needed to have the tank installed on the roof and assorted stacks put in place. I built the tank platform over the span of two days to let glue dry, put it on the roof yesterday and did the guyed stack today, along with some others. I found black Rembrandt in my supplies and used that to try to tone down the shiny black epoxy around the base of all the stacks. On to the platforms tomorrow. Now to follow Paul's lead and watch some football.

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    Respectfully,
    John
  • John, I'm new to watching your build, but it looks great. You did a good job toning down the red tar paper. It can really stick out if you don't watch it. I used Floquil Grimy Black to tone down any bright black spots but burnt umber or black will work also.

    Keep progressing. You're doing great. Phil
  • well done John, looking great! Everything blends nicely and looks like it was all weathered at the same rate. The only element that sticks out is the black flashing between the office roof and warehouse wall. A little grey chalk will knock the solid black down. Keep at it!
  • John, you should proud of what you have done. Keep it up.
  • Nicely done John. The tank, platform and roof vents look great.

    Paul
  • Looking good John, as Brett says, a little grey chalk on the black tar will tone it down nicely. Great to see the structure all together, a milestone to be proud of.

    Karl.A
  • John-
    I love your enthusiasm! Glad to see you're to see this project through. I think Brett mentioned the flashing...perhaps a little gray chalk here and there on some of the vents and stacks (the metal ones) as those tend to lighten as they age.

    I'm hoping you'll bring this along to the Expo in March so we can get an in person look. Plus, Paul will be there and you can pick his brain too!

    Well done!
  • Phil, thank you for looking in. I am constantly soliciting comments about what I am doing. My originating motivation to do a thread was seeking criticism to keep me from getting so far afield that recovery would be difficult.

    Brett, thanks - yes, I see what you mean, now that you point it out. I was so pleased with myself for how perfect the fit and appearance was that the coloration never occurred to me . . .

    Paul & Karl, thank you. I never thought I'd make the platform sufficiently sturdy but in the end it worked out. Tank coloration eluded me for several attempts but finally it got to a point where I was satisfied.

    Thanks Bill. I can't wait to see you all. Yes, I need to dab a little here and there with toning things down. The guyed chimney was a challenge figuring out how to get the brass wires attached to the right place and at the correct angles so that they all looked symmetrical. Hopefully coloration will begin to come to me with experience. At this point I don't seem successful starting with an objective like you and achieving it - if It has reasonable coloration - any coloration - it pleases me and I'm grateful for it!

    The following pictures are insignificant other than to demonstrate I have abandoned 1:1 and am back into The Shipyard . . . .

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    It's hard to imagine this is an afternoon's work.

    Respectfully,
    John
  • Another day at The Shipyard and another baby step of progress.

    I have been carefully following Brett's sequence in the manual with no jump aheads and nothing left for later - that I am consciously aware of. A nice thing about being so far behind everyone is the opportunity to meld Brett's manual with the experience of those ahead of me.

    Today, on page 50, I built the left loading dock. With so much dock area to build I was pleased to see how rapidly this project evolved from start to finish.

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    Next, cutting the legs I was surprised to learn I do not have a True Sander. I didn't even know what it was until a few minutes ago when I Googled it. Brett's instructions were sufficiently clear that its purpose was apparent. Just last night I reread Paul & John Elwood's thread and saw the block that Paul created to deal with qualified ends to the pilings. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. I made one minor modification by cutting a trough in the block. All was done with a table saw for angular perfection. I hold the piece of wood in position with my finger and get square ends by moving the block along a piece of 100 grit sandpaper.

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    And last but not least is the completed left freight dock. Brett stipulates the glue will suck the legs down nice and "square" but being a military person I believe in "trust but verify".

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    An excellent piece of information was the main dock leg length Paul experienced vs John E vs the documentation with the speculation that the foam material thickness may vary from place to place. I am on notice to have that in hand prior to cutting dock pilings.

    Thank you for looking in . . .

    Respectfully,
    John
  • I made one minor modification by cutting a trough in the block. All was done with a table saw for angular perfection. I hold the piece of wood in position with my finger and get square ends by moving the block along a piece of 100 grit sandpaper.

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    Oh man, I love this idea!

    The addition of that channel has other possibilities: You could use a similar setup as a tool to hold dock legs, pier pilings, fence posts, etc 100% true while gluing. (As long as 2 sides were completely square)

    Beats the way I used to try and square up legs:


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  • Ok, I'm intrigued. I understand John's use of the block to get square edges. Great improvising!!! I have the true sander, so I don't need this, but I don't understand how Bill would use it to hold legs, pilings, etc. true while gluing. I use Bill's method shown in the picture. In fact I use the 1/4" wood to line up most things. It's a great method.

    Bill, you may have to demonstrate this new use. Phil
  • BTW John, great use of the cap for holding your glue. I use gatorade caps, which can be reused. Phil
  • edited December 2014
    Thanks Bill & Phil. I appreciate your comments . . . .

    Today I began / completed the Right Dock. Phil, after wasting a lot of glue, it occurred to me to simply squeeze a large drop out of the main bottle. When it becomes unusable, I rinse the cap in the sink. Yesterday I found myself at odd and uncomfortable angles to my work so today I set up on a small cutting board that I can turn & reposition to best suit being right handed and seeking illumination. The wood is set up correctly on the print but looks lop sided because I did not cut the paper parallel to the diagram.

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    At the top of the next photo are the 24 legs for this dock. I found it easiest to use my jig to square one end of the piling, put that end against the stop on the cutter and then after chopping, to qualify the cut. By making the length of the piece sufficient, I could square the newly chopped end and still have the correct leg length. The second photo below is a repeat photo of how I squared both ends. This closest picture also has my next attempt at nail holes. My attempt on the main building did not come out well. Do these pass the test? They appear subtle to me.

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    Bill, you looked at my sanding jig last night and surprised me by relating it instead to a device for aligning dock supports as evidenced by the photo you included. That never would have occurred to me but look how well it worked in the photo below. I did all 24 pilings with it. How convenient! I'm fortunate to discover this at the onset of the zillion support legs & pilings that are in my near future with this kit. I can simply cut appropriately notches in the block to deal with other piling sizes. In this photo the furthest end of the jig is on a shim so it remains parallel to its task.

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    Unnecessary to show the completed dock. Tomorrow, the derrick dock . . .

    Thank you for looking in. Only baby steps but major ones for me.

    Respectfully,
    John
  • Nice work John, great idea on the jig for placing the pilings, it'll come in real handy on the main dock.

    Paul
  • Ok, now I see!! I like it and will make one to use in the future. Thanks John.

    Phil
  • John, very shrewd and inventive with the block. Never would have thought about that. You are doing quite well. Keep it up.

    Dave
  • That's a neat tool. Very clever.
  • Thank you Paul, Phil, Dave & Bryan. I believe I will continue to use & modify the jig for sanding but just now seeing Paul's solution, I like that better - of course! In a way, this reminds me of the quip about giving the most tedious or difficult job to the laziest man because he would figure out the easiest way to do it. The lazy part certainly applies to me . . . .

    A less productive day in the Cougar Mountain Shipyard today with multiple activities. I believe the natural curved section is destined to be the stem for a new ship build that has just been contracted.

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    When not watching that activity the cross bracing was completed.

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    Not much, but a great afternoon in mountain fog and one step closer . . . .

    Respectfully,
    John
  • edited December 2014
    Progress is progress John, you say not much, but many of us know that that is not a five minute project. Colour and assembly of the dock and legs looks terrific, nice progress indeed.

    Karl.A
  • I agree with Karl John. It all looks great and you seem to be doing a brilliant job of what can often be a messy 1.

    I envy you. Im sitting here in some pretty mean african heat today wishing i had those conditions to model in.
  • Karl, thank you for your encouragement.

    Wes, Thank you also - its very nice to see you looking in. Are you working on a particular project now? Forgive me please if I should already know.

    Another day, another dock. I will do nail holes tomorrow and touch up raw edges at the same time. Nothing much to look at here, just proof I did it!

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    I didn't want to break the day going out looking for N gauge grey ballast for barnacles, so I have experimented. First let me say the overall color of the piling appears to have the chalk coated to thickly and I guess I need to brush them out somewhat overall to reduce that effect. The picture below is using Brett"s technique of wetting the piling with glue then sticking it into barnacles - in this case, salt and pepper! I took a couple of dozen pictures and don't seem to be able to capture the effect/color very well. I would really appreciate comments on this matter.

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    Respectfully,
    John
  • edited December 2014
    If your dowels are still full length pull them through some steel wool, this will remove some chalk and lighten the colour. Also it will smooth them off to a more weather worn appearance and remove the fuzzies.
    Barnacles look good to me, good colour variation, be careful not to dissolve the S&P with any washes you do in the future.

    Karl.A
  • Karl: thank you. I do have reservations about the water absorption characteristics of salt and after doing additional research over the past hour find others share that speculation. I have ordered the gray scale ballast that Brett suggests.

    I have already cut the dowels on my Byrnes saw but can easily hold them with tweezers and follow your suggestion. I also need to rough up their tops a bit.

    John
  • Hi John, moving along nicely and looks like your in a grove, nicely done. Hope to see this build at the Expo. Karl will never steer you wrong he is extremely intuitive when it comes to modeling and has given me tons of great advise. I have not had the opportunity to model any water front scenes yet so have not real practical advise. One thing to try on the piling, pick at the top with your blade making dents and pock marks to simulate the type of weathering you get on the cross grain. I have attached a picture of my Sand House to show the effect I got on the timber ends using this method. As usual, the close up makes it appear a bit rough and harsh but at scale looks great.image
  • Ken, thank you for this info. I have several prominent beam ends that I can treat as you suggest. Your example is perfect. Your project is looking GREAT . . .

    Respectfully,
    John
  • The derrick dock is mostly complete. I have positioned without glue the six pilings in the wide section for the moment. They get barnacles, due to arrive tomorrow. I will glue them in then. The porch dock & the main dock tomorrow.

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    Thank you for looking in . . .

    John
  • John, I'm learning as you go. What are those black objects? Are they weights? Phil
  • edited December 2014
    Phil, you are not learning anything from me! I am pleased however that you are looking in. My entire purpose doing this is to pray that you real wizards will catch any errors I make before I get too far off the track . . .

    Yes, the black objects are half inch steel cut up into sizes that are convenient. I got the idea from Paul but no not have a convenient Cu source.

    Ken, I chewed up the end of the dock beams - let's see if it is visible when I take the dock off the pattern.

    My barnacles arrived today. The Amazon photo seemed like an envelope of fine ballast but boy the box was large and heavy for that. I was shipped a pint! It is a lifetime supply. Looks like I'll have to put barnacles on the lightning rod, all the chimneys and even my light fixtures.

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    I located, colored and cut the wood for the main dock, then got that reasonably along.

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    I have spent a lot of time trying unsuccessfully to find where to buy code 70 weathered rail that Brett recommends. All I need is two 18" pieces for the diorama. Would someone please suggest a source?

    Respectfully,
    John
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