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  • edited September 2014
    Just to show I haven't fallen asleep at the switch, here is proof of minimal progress. You all work faster than me because you build large layouts - the single photo below is the result of almost five hours of fun. I blocked the warehouse interior, put the edge caps on the warehouse roof, glued the roof in place then put clap boards on two walls. The boarded walls are resting under the weights. I will complete the clap boards tomorrow then need to leave town for a week to earn some money for Brett's next announcement. By the way, note my beautiful sheet of half inch glass suggested by one or more of you.

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    Respectfully,
    John
  • It's looking great John, now that all those smaller pieces are coming together it is turning into something special. The colours all look great and a little, subtle, final blending will homogenize everything perfectly.
    I always get nervy when I see peoples pics with all those metal weights.....

    You are going to love using the glass base for so many things. So simple, so effective, so glad Brett introduced me to it.

    Looking forward to an update when you get back in town.

    Karl.A
  • John,

    A pitfall for me you can avoid was in building the platforms. Once the first platform was constructed I pushed it up against the building and it was too tall so I cut down all the legs to what I thought was the right height. After going farther in the instructions I found that there was a "concrete" base under the structure which made the original height of the platform correct. It really is not visible in the photos but shows up when you start making the scenery base. Had to do it again. Learned a lesson there.

    Mitch
  • Mitch,

    That's a biggie - thank you! Please try to eventually find time to give us additional pictures of your work . . . . .

    Respectfully,
    John - Medora, ND for a few more days
  • Karl, thank you for your kind comment. I am coming to realize it is easy for me to focus on things that become less relevant as pieces combine. Even if some of my coloring is weird by the standards of those of you who can control it, to me they just look interesting and varied! Ignorance can be bliss . . . .

    I bought the piece of glass a year ago to have a flat foundation for the brass O gauge locomotive and brake goods car kits I bought from the UK last year. It is a wonderful tool.

    Before going out of town I did the clapboards for the Yardmaster's office, attached the backside bracing with epoxy and left the three pieces under a heavy load on. I tried to distress the clapboard coverage a lot.

    Today I put in the windows/doors and shingled the roof. Tomorrow I hope to put it all together but hope I can deviate a little by fitting the office against the building temporarily for a fit with the roof in place then remove it and add the rafter tails. If I can stabilize the office walls with the roof attached, have a satisfactory fit against the warehouse and then remove it to put the rafter tails in place it will be easier than trying to invert the assembled three buildings.

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  • edited October 2014
    A few more baby steps and a question if I may about the fuzziness on the office. Coloring on the first two pictures remains weird. More on that in a minute.

    First of all, I took license to modify the attaching wall of the office. Brett's instruction appeared to have the roof edging stand proud. Paul appears to have built that way and seems to have put a similar edge piece on the two vertical wall edges so that the office would attach without gaps when glued to the warehouse. Please correct me if I am wrong. That is how I interpret Brett's and Paul's pictures under magnification.

    Instead, I laid the cardboard blank wall and the edging pieces flat on my glass and glued them together. The office was then stood vertically on those pieces for glueing in place. In other words, the cardboard, the edging and the vertical walls are all on the same plane. That enabled me to glue the ensemble to the warehouse without shims to compensate for the roof edging. Zooming in on the photo will clarify this.

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    Question now. I opted to distress the office a little extra with missing and mis-matched siding. In person the effect isn't even noticeable! In this photo the most visible aspect seems to be fuzzy wood. I can't see it without the camera! Is there a way to tone down the fuzzes now that I have the buildings glued together? Steel wool rubbing seems impractical

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    My most recent posts used pictures taken with halogen lighting and look weird. I switched to standard light bulbs for the the picture seen below and RTFM - I realized this space age camera has a selector for lighting type and the one picture below was taken after making the adjustment. I'll see how it posts, but off hand it appears to me to be more realistically colored than my last couple of posts.

    Having done what I described above, the office fit against the warehouse perfectly. I am pleased with the visual on the flashing also.

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    I intend to put one LED inside the office. The light blocking paper is arranged so that only the door and adjacent window will show light from inside. I believe a light with shade above the outside of the office door would be appropriate as well.

    Watertank, stacks & chimney may just put me into docks / platforms . . .

    Thank you for looking . . . .

    Respectfully,
    John
  • Great work! The fuzzies never bother me like it does for some but steel wool is the best- but it in turn leaves little metal fuzzies which can stick to things. But not really a big deal.
  • Hi John, Coming along nicely, well done. I have dealt with the fuzzed wood the traditional way of running each board through steel wool held in my hand or very fine sand paper. Once attached to the structure a bit more difficult. I have used fine tweezers and actually plucked off offending larger pieces of fuzzed up wood slivers. Tedious but worth the effort but doable on this smaller structure your working on now. You could also fold some fine sandpaper forming a tight fold and carefully run horizontally along each board. By the way, your roof on the office looks great. Ken
  • Thank you James and Ken for commenting. I shall take both suggestions next week when I return home. Presently on the road for a week trying to support my Starbucks, Wooly Toad ( http://www.okigolf.com/Courses/NewCastle/Pages/Woolytoad.aspx ) habits and Brett's promise to present the "Founders Series) in the fall. Isn't it fall now? Brett? . . .

    I'll try to smooth the walls to the extent possible with your suggestions then live with the result. My unfocused eye glasses aren't as critical as the camera - and I thought I was doing myself a favor buying it!

    Respectfully,
    John
  • The camera never lies John, the camera is a great aid, it allows us to review and revise at leisure. and to spot the things we missed the first time around.

    Steel wool is always my "go to" for fuzzies. However, as the wall is already built with windows installed, extra care must be taken.
    Lightly rub the wall with a 'loose' ball of steel wool. This will hopefully snag the fuzzies without any detrimental effect to the wall, windows, or colouring. As always, try on an inconspicuous area first to determine the results.
    I usually find that a clean, semi-stiff bristled paint brush will remove any stray fibres from the steel wool.

    Karl.A
  • Hi John,

    I've used an old stiff toothbrush to get the fine hairs off. For the longer ones I prefer to slice them off with a no. 11 blade as pulling them with tweezers tends to pull long strips of fibers off. This leaves gouges in the wood.

    I'm not sure you have seen this? When I have used 70% alcohol for colouring with chalks the number of fine hairs tend to be more than when I use 90% or 99% alcohol. I feel that the extra water content takes longer to dry and if you brush the strip wood too early it raises the grain and fibers too much. Could just be me though?

    Also, if I want a smooth finish I chalk the strip wood and wipe it down with a paper towel when it is still damp. This presses the fibers into the wood creating a smoother surface.

    BTW: I like the jagged siding on the office. I'm a bit confused though...I like the wood colour, but the aging on the siding seems not to correlate with the colouring. Either the colour is too "fresh wood" like or the siding has been stripped of paint waiting to be repainted? Or is it that new camera doing magical things again.

    Marty
  • John,

    If you cannot see the fuzzies but the camera does I would leave it alone. I think you are trying to build the best model you can but its your first so you are gaining all kinds of experience to apply to the next assembly when you get to it. Steel wool, knives and tweezers will all work but they all will probably cause you to expose unstained wood which creates its own problem in trying to fix that. Proceed cautiously.

    Best regards,

    Mitch
  • agree with Mitch - leave it be if it's ok to the naked eye...
  • Great comments Karl, Marty, Mitch & Brett. Thank you for looking and commenting. I really like the idea of leaving it alone. A lesson learned would be to photograph the piece before glueing it into position - much as I see Ken doing with his excellent interior wall views.

    I'm on the road until weekend then need to prep for several interior home contractors to tear up my entire lower floor the following week. I'll be watching though . . .

    Thank you for looking and commenting.

    Respectfully,
    John
  • I like the uneven bottoms of the siding boards. Adds a great deal of interest.
  • Hi John,
    I really like the individual boards on the picture above it add a lot to the build. So much better than plain scribed siding. Keep up the great work.
    Jim
  • Too trivial for pictures, but this week while the contractors were banging away downstairs I attached the chimney and stacks on the main building complex and tried coloring the tank that will go on the warehouse roof. Not much. I need to look at some of your threads to help tank coloring.
    Once the tank is mounted, I am finally on to another phase!
  • Hi John,

    Been away for awhile on the forums (house and all), your build is coming along nicely, looking forward to seeing the stacks and docks.

    Paul
  • Like Paul I am looking forward to seeing this next stage in your build.,

    Karl.A
  • Hi John,

    WOW, another Shipyard build. I shared Paul Smulder's build on another forum with this marvelous kit. Spent more than a year putting her together, most of that time doing research on real shipyards. Although time consuming, I thoroughly enjoyed this build.
    I expanded and modified my diorama to my own liking. Took 3rd place, large dioramas, at CSS2013. Will definitely follow you along. Glad to see others take the plunge.

    John Elwood
  • First of all, please permit me to say that after a week on the road I have had contractors in here this week ending and all of the preceding week. I expect my painting to go well into next week on eight hour days so that we can resume normal living.

    Bryan, thank you for your comment on the exterior siding. It looked so prominent up close, yet it remains so tiny!

    Paul, thank you, your own project both 1:1 and 1:87 are looking great. I am so pleased to look at your pictures every time I go into a new phase.

    Thanks Karl, I only need to build and mount the warehouse roof water tank before moving on to the next phase. I am excited about that. I do need to see if I can find a nice color photo of someone's water tank. I began coloring it but so far it looks drab.

    John, I am really pleased to know you are looking in. I have followed so much of your work with fascination. I must go back and find your photos. Having all of you out front is a great aid to me.

    Thank you each and everyone for not only looking in but for taking the time to comment.

    Respectfully,
    John
    Seattle
  • John, isn't it a pain when 1:1 work gets in the way of 1:87 modelling. Onky if we could 1:1 work in 1:87 time.
  • I haven't done anything for a couple of weeks while working through the 1:1 massive project in my household but I am mentally hung up on the tank that goes above the warehouse roof. I've been looking at past posts on your own different builds for inspiration. Is it possible for guidance to a thread one of you have here on the forum that would give me a direction to go on how to treat the tank?

    I'd be very appreciative . . . .

    Respectfully,
    John
  • John, the instructions in the manual is I used to build and colour it. The tank holds pitch and tar so you coukd lever that to add interesting colour and drips.

    Marty
  • John, as I'm learning, just give it a shot following Brett's instructions and post your pictures. If there needs to be improvements, you will get the feedback. You really do great work. Trust your modeling skills.
  • John,

    Would a relatively close up picture of my tank help you?

    Directions are pretty straightforward...paint the tank---highlight the bands and metal on top...drybrush to weather and bring out the detail.

    Best regards,

    Mitch
  • Hey John-
    Here's a link to how Paul did his:
    http://www.sierrawestscalemodels.com/vanforum/discussion/163/the-shipyard-build/p7

    Looks like you prime it with Floquil Earth. Let it dry thoroughly. Then, come back and go over it with a thin layer of Polly Scale Roof Brown.

    No problem..you got this!
  • Wow, Folks - thank you for the enthusiastic response.

    Marty, I will read the instructions again . . .

    KCS Trains - sorry, I forgot your name - I will try to work through the instructions . . .

    Mitch, I am missing the intuition to color to an objective, if that makes sense. I am a techie and lack both creative and language skill. I feel like I can reproduce anything I can disassemble in my mind but I am not artistic.

    Bill, thank you, I absolutely need step/step and missed Paul's! I have actually been looking at his work, phase by phase and missed this. I owe you a beer for researching something for me that I missed. It is not easy being substandard - smile!

    Thanks again to you all - you're the BEST!

    Respectfully,
    John
  • John, any progress now that your renovations are complete?
  • Thanks Marty - just getting going now . . .
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