Ok, so you travelled back in time, took some photos, and posted them! Man, the realism is amazing, especially those first 2 pix looking deep into the shop. Fantastic job. What a tremendous contribution you make to the Forum!
Ok, so you travelled back in time, took some photos, and posted them! Man, the realism is amazing, especially those first 2 pix looking deep into the shop. Fantastic job. What a tremendous contribution you make to the Forum!
Thanks much Stephen. The lighting does make for a nice effect and I have made a point to add lighting to all my more recent builds.
Hey Nick, nice hearing from you my friend! I appreciate your support and kind words here. The Loco and Service Shop kit ranks as one of my favorite kits matched closely with Shelby's Marine Service. Absolutely loved working up both those amazing kits.
Appreciate that Jerry! Yeah, a bit of a bummer regarding the roof but of course of my own doing:) Thanks for the roof call out as well.
Hi Joel!, nice hearing from you as always and thanks for the note on the night shot. Your continued friendship here is highly valued and look forward to seeing you at the 2024 NNGC...maybe?
Well thanks so much Jim! Its time to get busy with the scenic work...
Al, wanted to say what a nice comment you made here regarding the contribution to the forum. That means so much to me and illustrates what this hobby is all about...the camaraderie with fellow modelers and sharing ideas and experiences. Thank you.
Hey Kevin, ditto from above to you as well for ditto of the comment from Al...well that wasn't confusing at all!...wait...what?
Have you planned for an area outside the wheel wright shop for heating wheel rims to put onto the new/repaired rims ? I used to watch lots of videos on YouTube by Engels Coach Shop and this one shows nicely how it is traditionally done A large burn area would be a good little mini scene . You could possibly incorporate some sort of pump and hoses from the creek to cool the rim after it was put onto the wheel .
Nick! Was thinking of you just yesterday…well not you specifically but thinking of what I was going to do with the exterior of this project. What a phenomenal idea! I love it…it would be unique and serve to tie in the outside work flow with the interior…such an important concept. I would love to talk and consult with you more as this plan develops, if that’s OK? I think if our back and forth is posted here it might prove an interesting read for folks and may elicit other ideas. A collaboration of sorts in full view of the forum members…what do you think?…
Nick! Was thinking of you just yesterday…well not you specifically but thinking of what I was going to do with the exterior of this project. What a phenomenal idea! I love it…it would be unique and serve to tie in the outside work flow with the interior…such an important concept. I would love to talk and consult with you more as this plan develops, if that’s OK? I think if our back and forth is posted here it might prove an interesting read for folks and may elicit other ideas. A collaboration of sorts in full view of the forum members…what do you think?…
Nick! Was thinking of you just yesterday…well not you specifically but thinking of what I was going to do with the exterior of this project. What a phenomenal idea! I love it…it would be unique and serve to tie in the outside work flow with the interior…such an important concept. I would love to talk and consult with you more as this plan develops, if that’s OK? I think if our back and forth is posted here it might prove an interesting read for folks and may elicit other ideas. A collaboration of sorts in full view of the forum members…what do you think?…
Ken ,
I would be more than happy to talk about this project with you and bandy some ideas, for what they are worth, about to help produce a model that works logically as well as visually . Now, not having spoken to you about your model before I might be stating the obvious or repeating ideas you have already considered so bear with me on that .
As I see it ,to start with both the blacksmith and wheelwright would need a stock of raw materials stored so that they are readily available to undertake whatever job was required at the time . For the blacksmith , a rack on the outside to carry numerous lengths of steel in different sizes so that he can easily pull what ever he might need from the rack . This rack need not be covered as the work done on the steel would remove any rust that might build up . Where as the wheel wright would need a stock of different timbers , not necessarily very long, available that were dry and seasoned . That would suggest a covered area with racks to separate the different timbers . This could be a lean to against the main building , with or without doors , or ,possibly a separate shed altogether . The main criteria would be that the timber was dry .
Once the wheelwright had made or repaired the wheel it would be handed over to the blacksmith to make a rim that once heated and cooled would hold the wheel together . In order to heat the rim up sufficiently it would need to be put in a fire until it had expanded enough to go over the wheel . Once this had happened it would have to be cooled rapidly to contract enough to stay on the wheel. Some where like this would have a permanent burn site that would be used time after time , which may even be contained within a ring of bricks , or more likely, stones to stop the fire spreading . It could even be dug into the ground.
If the rims were as big as the one in the video they might construct a crane that swings from the fire to where ever the wheel was placed to move the rim in order to save time and bad backs . I guess the use of a forklift would be unlikely .
In order to cool the hot rim quite a lot of water would be needed to be poured over it . As I suggested some sort of pump and hoses could be put into the brook to extract whatever water was necessary . But what if the brook dried up in the summer? This would suggest that some sort of water storage might be prudent . Therefore you could justify a water tank for just such an occurrence . You would still need a pump to get the water there .
Would there be poorly wagons sitting outside waiting patiently for their wheels to be repaired or replaced ?
What about getting Brett to send you a couple of hundred horse shoes and then you could build a stack of used horse shoes . This is something that happened quite often as monuments to how many horses a blacksmith/farrier shod in his career .
I hope there is something in that little lot to help and get your creative juices flowing .
Right , my typing finger is sore and it is time for bed , so tell me what you think and I will put my thinking cap on again to see if I can come up with any more bright ideas .
I forgot to add, the fire would require a good deal of wood to burn , so that would give the excuse to have a large wood pile in the corner ready for use .
Perfectly laid out Nick and appreciate you taking the time to put down your ideas. The next step in my mind is to layout a plan on paper of each scene and main details that will be incorporated. I'll start working on that and post the schematic for your review. This is going to be great...a "buddy build" of sorts with one providing the ideas and workflow and the other constructing the scenes. Not sure if this has ever been done before...
Perfectly laid out Nick and appreciate you taking the time to put down your ideas. The next step in my mind is to layout a plan on paper of each scene and main details that will be incorporated. I'll start working on that and post the schematic for your review. This is going to be great...a "buddy build" of sorts with one providing the ideas and workflow and the other constructing the scenes. Not sure if this has ever been done before...
A “buddy build” sounds great . You build it and send it to me to finish off and then I’ll be your buddy for ever !
Crack me up!...getting an inventory and will get an order out to Brett for some more wagon wheels. Getting some cool ideas down for the details. Thinking of putting in a downspout in the front corner directed into a large rain barrel for some water and , as you suggested, maybe a water tank as well. I love detailing tanks and I have a great selection from SWSMs. Brett had a nice sale on resin tanks years ago and I stocked up...
Ken, A few years ago at Arrow Rock, MO a black smith was heating a rim to go on a wheel. The rim was set on some small rocks not even level about six to eight inches off the ground. The rim was about three to four feet in diameter. Sever small fires were burning under the rim. The fires were spaced about ever foot or foot and a half around the circumference. Each fire was small no larger than a dinner plate. The blacksmith said that this would be enough to get the rim to expand enough to fit around the wheel. I thought this might give a option of something simple for the outside of the building. Maybe I will see it in Pittsburgh. Randy
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The roofs perfect weathering and all this in in 1:87 scale.
Fantastic is an understatement on what you accomplished on this build.
Jerry
Hey Nick, nice hearing from you my friend! I appreciate your support and kind words here. The Loco and Service Shop kit ranks as one of my favorite kits matched closely with Shelby's Marine Service. Absolutely loved working up both those amazing kits.
Appreciate that Jerry! Yeah, a bit of a bummer regarding the roof but of course of my own doing:) Thanks for the roof call out as well.
Hi Joel!, nice hearing from you as always and thanks for the note on the night shot. Your continued friendship here is highly valued and look forward to seeing you at the 2024 NNGC...maybe?
Well thanks so much Jim! Its time to get busy with the scenic work...
Al, wanted to say what a nice comment you made here regarding the contribution to the forum. That means so much to me and illustrates what this hobby is all about...the camaraderie with fellow modelers and sharing ideas and experiences. Thank you.
Hey Kevin, ditto from above to you as well for ditto of the comment from Al...well that wasn't confusing at all!...wait...what?
Have you planned for an area outside the wheel wright shop for heating wheel rims to put onto the new/repaired rims ? I used to watch lots of videos on YouTube by Engels Coach Shop and this one shows nicely how it is traditionally done
A large burn area would be a good little mini scene . You could possibly incorporate some sort of pump and hoses from the creek to cool the rim after it was put onto the wheel .
Just a thought
Nick
Nick! Was thinking of you just yesterday…well not you specifically but thinking of what I was going to do with the exterior of this project. What a phenomenal idea! I love it…it would be unique and serve to tie in the outside work flow with the interior…such an important concept. I would love to talk and consult with you more as this plan develops, if that’s OK? I think if our back and forth is posted here it might prove an interesting read for folks and may elicit other ideas. A collaboration of sorts in full view of the forum members…what do you think?…
Jerry
I would be more than happy to talk about this project with you and bandy some ideas, for what they are worth, about to help produce a model that works logically as well as visually . Now, not having spoken to you about your model before I might be stating the obvious or repeating ideas you have already considered so bear with me on that .
As I see it ,to start with both the blacksmith and wheelwright would need a stock of raw materials stored so that they are readily available to undertake whatever job was required at the time . For the blacksmith , a rack on the outside to carry numerous lengths of steel in different sizes so that he can easily pull what ever he might need from the rack . This rack need not be covered as the work done on the steel would remove any rust that might build up . Where as the wheel wright would need a stock of different timbers , not necessarily very long, available that were dry and seasoned . That would suggest a covered area with racks to separate the different timbers . This could be a lean to against the main building , with or without doors , or ,possibly a separate shed altogether . The main criteria would be that the timber was dry .
Once the wheelwright had made or repaired the wheel it would be handed over to the blacksmith to make a rim that once heated and cooled would hold the wheel together . In order to heat the rim up sufficiently it would need to be put in a fire until it had expanded enough to go over the wheel . Once this had happened it would have to be cooled rapidly to contract enough to stay on the wheel. Some where like this would have a permanent burn site that would be used time after time , which may even be contained within a ring of bricks , or more likely, stones to stop the fire spreading . It could even be dug into the ground.
If the rims were as big as the one in the video they might construct a crane that swings from the fire to where ever the wheel was placed to move the rim in order to save time and bad backs . I guess the use of a forklift would be unlikely .
In order to cool the hot rim quite a lot of water would be needed to be poured over it . As I suggested some sort of pump and hoses could be put into the brook to extract whatever water was necessary . But what if the brook dried up in the summer? This would suggest that some sort of water storage might be prudent . Therefore you could justify a water tank for just such an occurrence . You would still need a pump to get the water there .
Would there be poorly wagons sitting outside waiting patiently for their wheels to be repaired or replaced ?
What about getting Brett to send you a couple of hundred horse shoes and then you could build a stack of used horse shoes . This is something that happened quite often as monuments to how many horses a blacksmith/farrier shod in his career .
I hope there is something in that little lot to help and get your creative juices flowing .
Right , my typing finger is sore and it is time for bed , so tell me what you think and I will put my thinking cap on again to see if I can come up with any more bright ideas .
Nick
Right on Travis...that iconic smell when opening a SierraWest Scale Models kit...nothing like it to get the modeling mojo going!